Curse

Mera Regila · Nov 09, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Clone

No. Horrible idea. If the greens aren't reward enough, I pity you.

OMG I totally forgot about all those greens that really are hugely awesome! I mean, Ogre Slaying Knife, Milus's Eye, and ALL those other awesome greens that we don't deserve more reward from! Especially since golds are better in some instances, better skin, better mods, better everything. Yeah me and my entire point have both been OWNED. [/sarcasm]

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Originally Posted by Faer

It's a good idea on the basic level, but as it stands, it'd encourage solo farming (which, though they allow to continue, ArenaNet has said that they do not encourage, nor do they greatly appreciate), and the market would probably take yet another strange hit, which we really don't need to happen at this point in time. So, a couple of possible ways to keep these things from happening, or at least, to keep them from occurring on a vast scale:

As stated previously, make greens unique for the title. One Strongroot's Shelter, one point; three hundred Strongroot's Shelters, still one point.
To prevent solo farming en masse, encourage players to go out with some kind of group by raising the title points only when the player obtains a green in a party of three or more others (Players, Henchmen, or Heroes).

I thank you for the confirmation Faer. But how would this deliver a "strange hit" to the economy of guild wars at all? Selling them wouldn't get the person who bought them the title, and I don't see how it might make them less valuable. First suggeston has been noted and added. Second suggestion would not be such a good idea, all it would do is make it unnecissarily difficult to get the greens, considering the fact that the henchmen/heroes would get the drops more likely than you would, and it would only make it unnecissarily long. Some greens, though, require a group to hope to kill the boss, nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Slow down there, sparky.

1. Many, many people have fought bosses and not gotten greens. It was documented in another thread that the percentage chance that a given boss will drop a green item is about 10%. Take a party of eight people - that gives you a 1-2% chance that you'll get a green item after you kill a boss.

There are many, many people bitter about this very low drop rate. This would definitely be a "salt in the wound" title for those people who don't have as good of luck as you in obtaining these items.

2. If you open a chest, you are GUARANTEED of getting a purple or gold item. Big difference - you know, when you open that chest, that you're getting credit to your title. If you chose to farm chests, you would obtain that title, guaranteed. Which is very much unlike green "farming".

1. Nobody ever said this title was meant to be easy and fast to max out. And on the flip side, all the gold item identifier and chest opener titles annoy me, because I don't pay for Keys, and since the skill-less builds are dropped, I don't get many keys anymore, nor have i EVER gotten a decent gold, chest or otherwise.

2. So this title would be more difficult to obtain? If it's ever added (which I doubt highly) you could just ignore it if you never get any greens, and if you do, it'll be a little extra for your luck.

Dougal Kronik · Nov 09, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

I'm starting to definitely go against the direction you seem to be heading.

Because you appear to have found/copied/discovered a high level boss that drops greens and you can solo, you are against any alteration to your proposal.

And you may have some difficulty in getting some of the other titles because you spend quite a bit of your time time farming for that green which you sell and make a nice chunk of gold.

The only way this should work is 1 Unique = 1 point. Regardless of level or area, that way you must work to kill bosses and get the green items to drop.

Yes, some areas you will need other players/heroes/henchies but that is the way of titles - you have to earn them, even the farming titles involved some effort.

If you don't like the ideas others are proposing to actually make your solo-green boss-now I want a title thread, into a possibility, from any rational persons perspective, of being included in the game.

'Nuff said.

Jetdoc · Nov 09, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by legion_rat

I agree that you should only get credit once per green.

This would actually make this title very feasible.

You could use the title kind of a "checklist", much like the Protector titles.

If you revise your request to more along the lines of...

13/75 Possible greens dropped and assigned

...I think this would be a good title. Kind of "getting the green for the sake of getting it" mentality, versus using it for profit.

bog boy · Nov 09, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

/signed awesome idea

LuckyGiant · Nov 09, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by Clone

No. Horrible idea. If the greens aren't reward enough, I pity you.

/Not Signed

Agree with the above.

Faer · Nov 09, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

lol, why the love of the font: Times New Roman?

Because Times New Roman is love.

(And it aggravates the hell out of JR and Dirrt)

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Originally Posted by Mera Regila

But how would this deliver a "strange hit" to the economy of guild wars at all? Selling them wouldn't get the person who bought them the title, and I don't see how it might make them less valuable.

Introducing a title related to greens would pump a significant amount of green farming lust into the community.

More green farmers = More green drops = More greens on the market = Green prices drop = Greens become absolutely worthless.

Economics FTW.

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Originally Posted by Mera Regila

Second suggestion would not be such a good idea, all it would do is make it unnecissarily difficult to get the greens

So, what, you want a title that's extremely easy to get? What's the point of the title, then?

Cyclades of Knossos · Nov 09, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

/signed

For different reasons no one has mentioned.

I agree with the suggestion that you get one credit per unique weapon. Not multiple credits for bthe same weapon.

But I think the strongest reason for doing this is, it will encourage people to spread about back through the 3 chapters and keep the game alive for newer players who are already confronted with ghost towns in some instances.

Dalimoor_Kalkire · Nov 09, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Mera Regila

Green Lover (Between 50% and 59% Greens Dropped and Assigned)
Green Collector (Between 60% and 69% Greens Dropped and Assigned)
Green Fanatic (Between 70% and 79% Greens Dropped and Assigned)
Master of All Greens (Between 80% and 89% Greens Dropped and Assigned)
Green Farming Grandmaster (Between 90% and 97% Greens Dropped and Assigned)
Comments?

Whoa, hold on now...a title for farming? Now, I'm not sure, but all these altercations to farming in order to stop it have been noted, so why would we introduce a title built on farming? Look, I can count the number of green items I have seen drop in my name on two hands. I have dreadful luck with them as it is already a lower percentage. Now, as I understand, I take someone in my group with "Green Farming Grandmaster" (90%-97%) and they are even more in favor of getting a green item over me? This is just another tantilizing ideal to get people to farm the economy dry.

I don't see why we should play back into the farmer's hand and indroduce something asinine as this. I'm sorry, but grinding weapon drops for a title is as smart as eating a beehive.

Clawdius_Talonious · Nov 09, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

First they'd have to stop flagging you for green farming

Mera Regila · Nov 09, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by Dalimoor_Kalkire

Whoa, hold on now...a title for farming? Now, I'm not sure, but all these altercations to farming in order to stop it have been noted, so why would we introduce a title built on farming? Look, I can count the number of green items I have seen drop in my name on two hands. I have dreadful luck with them as it is already a lower percentage. Now, as I understand, I take someone in my group with "Green Farming Grandmaster" (90%-97%) and they are even more in favor of getting a green item over me? This is just another tantilizing ideal to get people to farm the economy dry.

I repeat for about the third time on this thread, aren't both of the titles to do with identifying the items and opening chests, related to farming? If you're saying we should stop farming because they make an attempt to stop it, you are quite wrong. You may have misinterpreted the title, but it doesn't give any more chance for a green item to be dropped and assigned for you, that is just how you get the title, by having 50-100% of the greens in the game dropped for and assigned to you. I'm sorry, but if you're unlucky at getting green items, there is nothing anyone can do, just because you can't get the greens doesn't mean we can't add a little extra for green item farming. If you think it'll make people "farm the economy dry" just to get the title, not many people are that dead-set on getting titles.

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Originally Posted by LuckyGiant

/Not Signed

Agree with the above.

*sigh* gotta love it when people don't even consider the idea in question. Plus, ZOMG I know, I mean, what is wrong with me if getting an ALMIGHTY OGRE SLAYING KNIFE isn't enough of a reward for me?

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

This would actually make this title very feasible.

You could use the title kind of a "checklist", much like the Protector titles.

If you revise your request to more along the lines of...

13/75 Possible greens dropped and assigned

...I think this would be a good title. Kind of "getting the green for the sake of getting it" mentality, versus using it for profit.

Please reread the first post, that suggeston has been added, except I would rather put it along the lines of percentages.

Faer · Nov 09, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

I'd like to take a moment to point out that the Edit Button is your friend, and that double/triple/quadruple/etc. posting is discouraged here at Guru unless your thread has slipped down into the depths of the forum without getting any attention (which this particular thread is getting plenty of).

That being said, there has been a discussion among some of the staff regarding this thread, and the general consensus is that this thread is going nowhere, started from nowhere, and won't ever go anywhere. As much as I'd like to see where this idea could go, it looks like it's time to end this.